>> the israelis after the palestinian elections. i said really? he said, yes, i think there's some prospect. i didn't delve into it.
>> there you have the governor referring it to a private conversation he said he had with a former secretary of state saying there could be palestinian elections. he dent delve into that. he said palestinians not wanting to see peace in my way, and he would hope for some degree of stability. what kind of foreign policy is based on just hope there? this is the governor being candid in that room.
>> i think he was right to suggest that a path for the peace process is going to be difficult. i think he was wrong to say that the current status quo is sustainable. it's not. this is a festering wound within the middle east . it affects u.s. relations in the middle east and perceptions that have brought us the protests we've seen tragically the last few days. ultimately it's something that has to be resolved. this is largely up to the israeli prime minister and the palestinian president , and there is a fundamental lack of truth between the two. so it is going -- one would hope there will another opportunity going guard, but right now the conditions for a successful negotiate don't exist.
>> p.j., let me transition to afghanistan . you heard her report talking about the fact that nato preps feels undermined, this shoulder-to-shoulder program. obviously it's not working. we've seen too many lives taken as a result of afghan soldiers and police turns on their counterparts there. why is this happening, especially this timing?
>> let us be careful, tamron. there's no question that particularly the afghan military 's performance has improved significantly in recent years. the police is still a work in progress , although the nato command saluted the police over the last 24 hours for successfully breaking up demonstrations because of the film. nonetheless these green on blue attacks are undermining this partnership between the intern united states and afghanistan . they've been successfully taking measures to deal with these. ultimately, it's poor vetting of the individuals who have been brought into these institutions, and that is under review by the afghan government . it's going to take time to work through here to try to mitigate this threat.
>> you tell me to be careful here, but according to nbc news, a senior military official says, quote, we're to the point now where we can't trust these people.
>> i think this is taking a pause, because ultimately if this goes on it can fundamentally undernine the future relationship between the united states and afghanistan . so i think wiit's wise to take a strategic pause and try to strengthen the institution and understand the dynamic behind the attacks and see what steps can be taken to protect u.s. and isaf soldiers.
>> the question is how do you do that? there is a vetting process. they weren't pulling people in and giving them guns and uniforms. there was a process in place. how do you amend it all right. how do you amend the process?
>> well, i mean, part of this has been tension that existed for a long time between building up, you know, the level of afghan forces to a very ambitious size, 350,000 forces versus taking the time to patiently, you know, work with these people, train them effectively and give them time to develop professional skills. so on the one hand, you have a rise in capability, but on the other hand one of the factors always in developing an effective military and police force is time. it's not something that can be done over night.
>> is time on the side of this country. meaning the united states and men and women who are there. we know the president's plan. whether you say time t-these reports are coming out too grektly by a public sickened by the war and don't know the definition whaf success would be.
>> obviously on one hand there's a race to the end of 2014 when the mission as it's currently constituted will finalize. for the same token, the united states has said the ultimate job of helping build afghan government institutions will not be done by the end of 2014 . that's why it's important to condition to build this parngship between the united states and afghanistan . this is a broad challenge that will take years if not a decade or more.
>> thank you very much. great pleasure having you on. thank you.
>> thank you.
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